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Article published Feb 9, 2005
Proposed bill would fine young smokers

Robert W. Dalton
Staff Writer


COLUMBIA -- During her 20 years of working in convenience stores, Cindy Ruttle has seen a number of people fined for selling tobacco products to minors.But she's never seen an underage person who attempts to buy a pack of cigarettes receive any punishment."I see it all the time," said Ruttle, the manager of the Mini Mart on East Main Street in Spartanburg. "Kids come in here all the time with no ID or with an ID they've tried to alter."State Rep. Scott Talley, R-Spartanburg, wants to change that. Talley has introduced a bill that would create penalties for children under 18 who light up.He said the intent of the bill is twofold."First, hopefully it would cut down on youths' access to tobacco," Talley said. "Second, I think it's fair to say that rising health care costs have a lot to do with smoking. And it's the taxpayer who gets stuck with those costs."Under Talley's proposal, a first offense would be punishable by a minimum $100 fine or not less than 20 hours of community service. A second offense would result in a minimum $200 fine or not less than 40 hours of community service. The fine climbs to a minimum $300 for third and subsequent offenses.Talley said law enforcement officers wouldn't conduct random searches looking for underage smokers. He said like the current seat belt law -- which allows police to ticket adult drivers who aren't buckled up only if they stop them for another violation -- the tobacco charges would have to come as a result of an investigation for another offense."The bill is written to be a deterrent and have an impact on youth smoking, not to harm a kid's future," Talley said. "If they pay their fines or do their community service, when they turn 18 they can have it expunged from their record."Rep. Ralph Davenport, R-Boiling Springs, said he supports Talley's plan."I don't know why kids pick upsmoking anyway," Davenport said. "It's a very bad personal decision that has the unintended consequence of hurting their health. There's nothing macho about getting cancer."Davenport said he expects Talley to take some heat over sponsoring the bill."I'm sure he'll catch some static, but he's a young man with big shoulders," Davenport said. "I'm proud of him."Elise Lyles, 17, said the proposed penalties wouldn't keep any of her friends from smoking."Nobody's reason for not doing something isn't because it's illegal," said Lyles, a Spartanburg High School junior and a non-smoker."It's just something else to try to get away with."Robert W. Dalton can be reached at 562-7274 or bob.dalton@shj.com.